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October 20, 2004

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Florida Ed

I agree with every word !

Sirod Nivek


A lot of assuming is not a good recipe for a killer argument. This argument would only work on people who already agree with its point of view.

Danelady


QUOTE Sirod Nivek
"A lot of assuming is not a good recipe for a killer argument. This argument would only work on people who already agree with its point of view."


...and those of us in reality, Kevin.

Qwerty O'Connell


This is a pretty poorly laid out argument.

If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War.

tonguezilla


"If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War."


Assumptions based on the reality of history are not assumptions they are more akin to predictions that will come true.


GayGuyPatriot


I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.

Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus.

BillW

You must know different people than I do. I not only know military personnel who quit because Clinton was President, I know Secret Service men who quit when Clinton was elected.

BillW


"This is a pretty poorly laid out argument.

If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War."


You do raise an interesting point. During the 2000 election the media was on Bush constantly about who he would appoint to his staff and he outlined the major portion of his staff long before the election. The few times Kerry has been asked about his possible appointments he has dodged the question.

I know of at least 50 people in the military today that have stated they will not re-up if Kerry is elected. Maybe I run with a different crowd, but the Kerry supporters in the military I run into can be counted on one hand. Further, I do not know anyone in the military today that considers Kerry a war hero, though they will acknowledge he’s a Vietnam vet.


redstate


"This is a pretty poorly laid out argument.

If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War."


Not Really. Abject example: Liar, Traitor, Coward #1, Bill Clinton and his "appointments"- The cowardly, weak and feeble minded-
Madelyn Albright- A doddering, cowardly old fool better suited to crocheting and pin collecting than as a chief diplomat- responsible for North korean nuclear proliferation..
Jocelyn Elders- Dr Phil in female form, condoms for the kiddies and masturbation are the panacea for global health, right. The list goes on: Janet Reno- what was that anyway? Mike Mcurry in a dress? Donna Shelala, Bill "the coward" Cohen, Robert "Ruin" (treasury secretary to the us and best friend to China) The biggest bunch of losers ever assembled in modern governance......

MrNiceGuy


"I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.


Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus."


Howdy-do. Now you've met one. I retired a year early when Klintoon became President. His "gays in the military" debate gave me flashbacks of Jimmy Carter pissing on us his first week in office by giving amnesty to draft dodgers.

I remember practicing assembling on the drop zone by jumping off the back of moving trucks because there was no money for aircraft fuel. I remember the decaying quarters my family had to live in. They set our thermostats so we wouldn't be able to run the air conditioning in the sweltering coastal Georgia summer while my wife was pregnant. I remember making up training in the company area because there was no money for us to even walk into the woods (yes, that costs money). There was no money for ammo for training (the US military is world renown for marksmanship training).

We were a laughing stock and all the time, Communism was marching forward on every continent. I couldn't bear to see my Army in that state again. And then two days before my retirement, the Mogadishu thing happened and my good friend was on the casualty list. Before I got home, the troops were pulled out.

When you've been in the military, THEN you can make assumptions about what is our heads.

da mouse

you say......"John Kerry must be defeated soundly if the American way of life is to continue. John Kerry has no honor and he endangers America." lets look at that...just what is the american way of life?we go to iraq...based of false assumptions(wmd)(terrorist haven) and try to establish a hold on that country's natural resources(oil)we attacked iraq because for years prior to this last invasion we owned their air space and knew we had weaked them enough to go and assume control....along the way we pissed off everyone else(russia,france,turkey,nato,united nations,moderate muslims,etc)with our so called do it our way or you are against tactic...hmmm funny now we need everyone else help for just about everything now,,,including flu shots...you say john kerry has no honour...that may well be true...but at least he did serve his country when he was called and didn't use hid daddy's influence to keep hisself out of harms way...now where is osama?(china) and how do we secure our harbors and ports from invaders and when will the seniors get what they were told and worked for all their life...bush can't cut it...you know it.....thats why you spread your whining bullshit....and i know john kerry isn't the best but at least he can put more than six words together and mean them...and he doesn't have to act like a child when he doesn't get his way(second debate)matter of fact....adrian i actually believe you are just another pretender...thinking to devide our great country(whats left) even further for your own personal gain(like most good ole' boys)(republicans)(carlyle groupies).....................bite me...da mouse

da mouse

you also say..."I am basically a Libertarian Republican Hawk. I hate overregulation of business and am a hawk on national defense. I am always struggling with what I think government should and should not do. I generally agree with Libertarian principals but still approve of government funding of an aggressive foreign policy and a necessary military as well as scientifically justified environmental protection and scientific research." i say jesus didn't like killing no matter what the reasons for......he also said you cannot serve two masters for you will love one and hate the other...you cannot serve mammon and god...so what are you really saying?

AFwarrior

Fudgepacker or GayGuyPatriot, whatever your name is. You are half right. I'm in the military and some will not leave if Kerry is elected (God forbid). Some need the work, are close to retirement, or just love the military. However, I do know quite of few officers and NCOs who have stated they will not serve under Kerry. I can't blame them. Who would want a CIC who turned his back on his brothers. I don't think we can take another 8 years of Pee Wee's playhouse again. God, please reelect George Bush. Please!!!

Steve

"I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.


Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus."


Add me to the list. I got out before Clinton, Thank God. I know that I could not have served with him at my CINC.

Kerry is worse- he actually called the military war criminals, and caused the treatment of POW's to be much worse than it already was. Pr*ck.

NavyNewfy


"I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.


Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus."


I agree with you about large chunks getting out, but there will be plenty. I retired rather than stay on another hitch during the Clinton years. My son has decided to postpone his enlistment in the Marines if Kerry is elected.

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