While John Kerry promises that he will “fight for a safer America;” those of us who weren’t born yesterday know that he’s lying and that he even knows it.
How do we know it? Just look back to the LBJ and Vietnam years. LBJ really wanted to stop the murderous Communists in Southeast Asia, but the Democratic Party power structure lost heart when the going got hard abandoning those of us who actually served when our country asked us to. Anyone who remembers the sixties knows that –
WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE DEMOCRATS QUIT AND GET OUT, leaving our friends and allies to pay the price and die. Yet Kerry says “our friends” would give us money and soldiers to help out in Iraq. Kerry knows this is a lie.
We know that each and every one of the Neocoms who support his election hates the military and shares the feelings of “verplanck colvin” who recently posted the following on my site, Public Enquiry Project:
“…Oh, and as for Vietnam, GET OVER IT. This post-baby-boomer is sick of hearing the self-centered bleatings of a washed up generation debate over this war AGAIN. Who cares if Kerry tossed his ribbons/medals? Who cares if Bush snorted coke and missed out on reporting for duty in Alabama? I don't!...
Posted by: verplanck colvin”
These are the sorts of people Kerry would appoint to implement his policies. The fact that these folks hate us is secondary to the fact that they would be responsible for the defense of America.
DOESN’T ANYONE ELSE SEE THE ABSURDITY OF PUTTING MILITARY HATERS IN CHARGE OF OUR DEFENSE IN THIS DANGEROUS WORLD?
The Democrats have absolutely no realistic military thinkers that they pay attention to. Would any Democrat have put US soldiers on the ground to kick Saddam out of Kuwait or the Taliban out of Afghanistan? I won’t even ask about Iraq.
Under a President Kerry, Somalia would be the model for military action – get out if any Americans get killed. People in the know realize that the Clinton Somalia disaster was directly responsible for the emboldening of bin Laden that directly led to the loss of 3,000 Americans on 9/11.
Furthermore, almost all active duty military and veterans know full well Kerry’s traitorous history and would quit before they would serve under such a discredited Commander-in-Chief. Also, the patriotic young folks who would normally volunteer to serve would almost certainly stay at home.
The obvious result of these truths is that a President Kerry (God save us) would have to implement the draft if he is really going to keep his promise to protect America.
John Kerry must be defeated soundly if the American way of life is to continue.
John Kerry has no honor and he endangers America.
I agree with every word !
Posted by: Florida Ed | October 20, 2004 at 12:11 PM
A lot of assuming is not a good recipe for a killer argument. This argument would only work on people who already agree with its point of view.
Posted by: Sirod Nivek | October 20, 2004 at 01:48 PM
QUOTE Sirod Nivek
"A lot of assuming is not a good recipe for a killer argument. This argument would only work on people who already agree with its point of view."
...and those of us in reality, Kevin.
Posted by: Danelady | October 20, 2004 at 01:52 PM
This is a pretty poorly laid out argument.
If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War.
Posted by: Qwerty O'Connell | October 20, 2004 at 01:53 PM
"If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War."
Assumptions based on the reality of history are not assumptions they are more akin to predictions that will come true.
Posted by: tonguezilla | October 20, 2004 at 01:54 PM
I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.
Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus.
Posted by: GayGuyPatriot | October 20, 2004 at 01:55 PM
You must know different people than I do. I not only know military personnel who quit because Clinton was President, I know Secret Service men who quit when Clinton was elected.
Posted by: BillW | October 20, 2004 at 01:57 PM
"This is a pretty poorly laid out argument.
If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War."
You do raise an interesting point. During the 2000 election the media was on Bush constantly about who he would appoint to his staff and he outlined the major portion of his staff long before the election. The few times Kerry has been asked about his possible appointments he has dodged the question.
I know of at least 50 people in the military today that have stated they will not re-up if Kerry is elected. Maybe I run with a different crowd, but the Kerry supporters in the military I run into can be counted on one hand. Further, I do not know anyone in the military today that considers Kerry a war hero, though they will acknowledge he’s a Vietnam vet.
Posted by: BillW | October 20, 2004 at 01:58 PM
"This is a pretty poorly laid out argument.
If there are any good points to be made (i.e. Kerry's post-Vietnam record) they're obscured by a bunch of assumptions that liberals hate the military, that Kerry would put people like Verplanck Colvin (a painter?) on his staff, or that the entire (or large chunk of) the military would rather quit than serve under a decorated war hero who protested the Vietnam War."
Not Really. Abject example: Liar, Traitor, Coward #1, Bill Clinton and his "appointments"- The cowardly, weak and feeble minded-
Madelyn Albright- A doddering, cowardly old fool better suited to crocheting and pin collecting than as a chief diplomat- responsible for North korean nuclear proliferation..
Jocelyn Elders- Dr Phil in female form, condoms for the kiddies and masturbation are the panacea for global health, right. The list goes on: Janet Reno- what was that anyway? Mike Mcurry in a dress? Donna Shelala, Bill "the coward" Cohen, Robert "Ruin" (treasury secretary to the us and best friend to China) The biggest bunch of losers ever assembled in modern governance......
Posted by: redstate | October 20, 2004 at 02:00 PM
"I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.
Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus."
Howdy-do. Now you've met one. I retired a year early when Klintoon became President. His "gays in the military" debate gave me flashbacks of Jimmy Carter pissing on us his first week in office by giving amnesty to draft dodgers.
I remember practicing assembling on the drop zone by jumping off the back of moving trucks because there was no money for aircraft fuel. I remember the decaying quarters my family had to live in. They set our thermostats so we wouldn't be able to run the air conditioning in the sweltering coastal Georgia summer while my wife was pregnant. I remember making up training in the company area because there was no money for us to even walk into the woods (yes, that costs money). There was no money for ammo for training (the US military is world renown for marksmanship training).
We were a laughing stock and all the time, Communism was marching forward on every continent. I couldn't bear to see my Army in that state again. And then two days before my retirement, the Mogadishu thing happened and my good friend was on the casualty list. Before I got home, the troops were pulled out.
When you've been in the military, THEN you can make assumptions about what is our heads.
Posted by: MrNiceGuy | October 20, 2004 at 02:02 PM
you say......"John Kerry must be defeated soundly if the American way of life is to continue. John Kerry has no honor and he endangers America." lets look at that...just what is the american way of life?we go to iraq...based of false assumptions(wmd)(terrorist haven) and try to establish a hold on that country's natural resources(oil)we attacked iraq because for years prior to this last invasion we owned their air space and knew we had weaked them enough to go and assume control....along the way we pissed off everyone else(russia,france,turkey,nato,united nations,moderate muslims,etc)with our so called do it our way or you are against tactic...hmmm funny now we need everyone else help for just about everything now,,,including flu shots...you say john kerry has no honour...that may well be true...but at least he did serve his country when he was called and didn't use hid daddy's influence to keep hisself out of harms way...now where is osama?(china) and how do we secure our harbors and ports from invaders and when will the seniors get what they were told and worked for all their life...bush can't cut it...you know it.....thats why you spread your whining bullshit....and i know john kerry isn't the best but at least he can put more than six words together and mean them...and he doesn't have to act like a child when he doesn't get his way(second debate)matter of fact....adrian i actually believe you are just another pretender...thinking to devide our great country(whats left) even further for your own personal gain(like most good ole' boys)(republicans)(carlyle groupies).....................bite me...da mouse
Posted by: da mouse | October 20, 2004 at 02:07 PM
you also say..."I am basically a Libertarian Republican Hawk. I hate overregulation of business and am a hawk on national defense. I am always struggling with what I think government should and should not do. I generally agree with Libertarian principals but still approve of government funding of an aggressive foreign policy and a necessary military as well as scientifically justified environmental protection and scientific research." i say jesus didn't like killing no matter what the reasons for......he also said you cannot serve two masters for you will love one and hate the other...you cannot serve mammon and god...so what are you really saying?
Posted by: da mouse | October 20, 2004 at 02:08 PM
Fudgepacker or GayGuyPatriot, whatever your name is. You are half right. I'm in the military and some will not leave if Kerry is elected (God forbid). Some need the work, are close to retirement, or just love the military. However, I do know quite of few officers and NCOs who have stated they will not serve under Kerry. I can't blame them. Who would want a CIC who turned his back on his brothers. I don't think we can take another 8 years of Pee Wee's playhouse again. God, please reelect George Bush. Please!!!
Posted by: AFwarrior | October 20, 2004 at 04:18 PM
"I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.
Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus."
Add me to the list. I got out before Clinton, Thank God. I know that I could not have served with him at my CINC.
Kerry is worse- he actually called the military war criminals, and caused the treatment of POW's to be much worse than it already was. Pr*ck.
Posted by: Steve | October 20, 2004 at 04:22 PM
"I have never met a soldier, sailor, airman or Marine who would decide whether or not to re-enlist based on who the President was. Re-enlistment is a much more personal decision than that.
Therefore, the "prediction" that large chunks of the military's personnel will quit if Kerry is elected is pretty bogus."
I agree with you about large chunks getting out, but there will be plenty. I retired rather than stay on another hitch during the Clinton years. My son has decided to postpone his enlistment in the Marines if Kerry is elected.
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