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August 27, 2004


montino leone

*cheers & applause* I like the line "These clowns are so blinded by their “beautiful” ideology that they are totally incapable of seeing the truth." Tell it like it is!!


Which is it War Criminal or Pacifist? Pick one or the other, you have no consistency in you rantings and ravings. Kerry could kick your ass too.



I bet Kerry could kick your ass, you fat and pasty pscyho. Oh, I read your 'theology,' it was a hoot. Might I recommend a psychiatrist?



posted by Steve in CO

Brian C.B.

Yeah. Kerry is a pacifist who killed a man. Up close and personal, with a rifle at close range, not sitting in some Austin office making jokes about a condemned prisoner and signing a warrant so that some minimum wage corrections employee would do the dirty work.

Whenever Adrian appears, I'm comforted to remember that, because of the Internet, some big city streetcorner evangelist is annoying passersby alone, without having to shout to be heard over Adrian's secular rant.

Brian C.B.


"England was culturally controlled by Bloomsbury Group Leftwing Pacifist Academic Idealists (LWPAIs). These people were committed to unilateral disarmament in the teeth of the frantic military buildups of Hitler and Togo."

Lordy, Adrian Spidle is one of the silliest people out there. England culturally controlled by leftwing pacifists? Arrant nonsense, as the saying is. If the British intelligentsia could be accused of anything at that time, it's Nietzschean, elitist, Social Darwinist proto-fascism...or explicit fascism, in the case of folks like Wyndham Lewis. Check out John Carey's "The Intellectuals and the Masses" for an account of how the views expressed by Hitler in "Mein Kampf" were common currency among pre-war European intellectuals.



Adrian Spidle, AKA, Abu the troll: nice cut and paste job from your website.

Seriously, y'all should check his site out. It's fucking fantastic!

Here's one of his gems :
I have proposed a new theology - THE THEOLOGY OF THE MODERN ERA - I simply believe that man, with his science and technology, will create God and an afterlife in the future to reward the Good and punish the evil and that Jesus will be our judge.

Pretty simple, huh? Just your run of the mill Mecha-Jeebus theology.

He says elsewhere:
My next thoughts in this series will be the "Quantum Theory of God." Basically, each universe like ours will need to marshal its total intelligence to create its own GOD so that these intelligences will be able to survive the death of their universes.

Sounds good to me, brother.

Posted by Karl, the Idiot


Basically, each universe like ours will need to marshal its total intelligence to create its own GOD so that these intelligences will be able to survive the death of their universes

Sounds a little like the noosphere reaching the omega point. Is he cribbing Teilhard de Chardin here?

Posted by chamberlain

Loki, E.Nc.Z.B-K

Don't worry, Kerry may be all "Reporting for duty" this week.

Next week he will be with the peace protesters at the convention, giving police officers flowers while the anarchists throw bricks threw car windows.


You are absolutely right, Adrian.

If you examine Kerry’s speeches from 1971 through 2002, the same theme runs through his speeches on the military and foreign policy during those 32 years.

That theme is pacifism. Kerry’s pacifism means that there are no circumstances in which he would use military force.

His pacifism springs from his extreme guilt over the war crimes that he admitted to committing in Vietnam.


"Around three or four million human beings were killed by Southeast Asian Communists directly as a result of the “work” of John Kerry..."

Watched a replay of the Dick Cavatt Show from 1971 on c-span a couple of weeks ago. John O'Neil(the Bush surrogate of Swift Boat Vets/sarcasm)argued that leaving to quickly will result in a high amount of innocent South Veitnamese deaths. Kerry responds with, sure there will be some political assasinations but he doesn't think that wholesale killing would happen. Well, not exactly Mr. Kerry

Steve in CO says I bet Kerry could kick your ass, you fat and pasty pscyho.
Adrian, you should be glad that this wasn't from one of those mean and evil republicans, you know the Dems are such nice people. (nice to their own anyway)

Enjoy your blog Adrian, but you sure do attract alot of abusive people. I do admire your mission in getting both sides to discuss. Keep at it, hopefully those that are filled with negative emotions will start discussing and quit trashing. But I ain't holding my breath.

Marc Brazeau

Kerry voted FOR Afghanistan , Iraq , Kosovo and Somalia

He fought in Vietnam and killed people despite misgivings about the war.

If that's your definition of a pacificist, I would assume that only a viking beserker would fit your definition of a hawk.

Here's my definition of a chickenhawk:

George Bush supported the war in Vietnam. Yet instead of volunteering for combat duty, he was able to get into the TXANG despite low test scores. (Former TX Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes has gone on record that he helped Bush get in. While he "serving" Bush was so irresponisble in his duties:
For the eighteen months prior to his quitting the Texas Air National Guard (TXANG), George W. Bush had ignored his obligations to the US Military, statutory and regulatory US Law, and Air Force regulations and policies. And for as long as he was being “supervised” by TXANG, he got away with it.

Very little attention has been paid to the period of Bush’s “service” after he left Texas and was assigned to the Air Reserve Personnel Center (ARPC) in Denver, Colorado. But it is during this period that Bush’s dereliction of duty—including his failure to participate in mandatory training, and his failure to maintain his flight status—came home to roost.

Unlike TXANG, ARPC took America’s national security—and the role played by Guardsmen and Reservists in maintaining US security—quite seriously.

The proof of this is the “ARF Retirement Credit Summary” dated January 30, 1974, which shows that Bush was placed in an “Inactive Status” effective September 15th, 1973. This document is the proverbial “smoking gun” which proves that the Air Force considered George W. Bush to have been a deserter.

Under Air Force policy in force at that time, the only way that someone in Bush’s position could be placed in an “Inactive Status” was if they were being “completely severed from military status.” And the only way that could happen is if someone had become permanently disabled, or deserted. Bush was not disabled.

Instead, consistent with contemporaneous laws, regulations, and procedures, ARPC had reviewed Bush’s records, and found that he had failed to “satisfactorily participate” as a member of TXANG. Bush was then ordered to active duty, for which he did not show up. ARPC then certified him for immediate induction as a “non-locatee” (e.g. a deserter) through the Selective Service System.

This is the only explanation that is consistent with Bush’s military records and Air Force policy of that era.

It is also clear that the Bush records were tampered with to hide this fact. Many documents were thrown out that should have been kept, and there is indisputable evidence that at least one key document has been altered.

The documentary evidence also strongly suggests that when news of Bush’s situation reached Texas, strings were pulled that resulted in Bush being “rehabilitated” in a manner completely inconsistent with Air Force policy.

The paper trail is incomplete, and in some cases ambiguous. But “clerical error” is not sufficient to explain the anomalies, because the level of “coincidence” required for a “clerical error” explanation is well beyond any rational possibility.

Because Bush’s records are incomplete, a full understanding of what Bush’s records represent, and how they must be interpreted, can only be achieved through an understanding of what each document means within its specific context.

Cheney five deferments
"They served. I didn't, because I had better things to do."

In February 1962, when Mr. Cheney was classified as 1-A available for service he was doing poorly at Yale. But the military was taking only older men at that point, and like others who were in college at the time, Mr. Cheney seemed to have little concern about being drafted.

In June, he left Yale. After returning home to Casper, a small city in east-central Wyoming, he worked as a lineman for a power company.

At that point, the Vietnam War was still just a glimmer on the horizon. In 1962, only 82,060 men were inducted into the service, the fewest since 1949. Mr. Cheney was eligible for the draft but, as he said during his confirmation hearings in 1989, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was taking only older men.

But by 1963, ferment in Vietnam was rising. Mr. Cheney enrolled in Casper Community College in January 1963 he turned 22 that month and sought his first student deferment on March 20, according to records from the Selective Service System. After transferring to the University of Wyoming at Laramie, he sought his second student deferment on July 23, 1963.

On Aug. 7, 1964, Congress approved the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which allowed President Lyndon B. Johnson to use unlimited military force in Vietnam. The war escalated rapidly from there.

Just 22 days later, Mr. Cheney married his high school sweetheart, Lynne. He sought his third student deferment on Oct. 14, 1964.

In May 1965, Mr. Cheney graduated from college and his draft status changed to 1-A. But he was married, which offered him some protection.

In July, President Johnson announced that he was doubling the number of men drafted. The number of inductions soared, to 382,010 in 1966 from 230,991 in 1965 and 112,386 in 1964.

Mr. Cheney obtained his fourth deferment when he started graduate school at the University of Wyoming on Nov. 1, 1965.

On Oct. 6, 1965, the Selective Service lifted its ban against drafting married men who had no children. Nine months and two days later, Mr. Cheney's first daughter, Elizabeth, was born. On Jan. 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant, Mr. Cheney applied for 3-A status, the "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. It was granted.

In January 1967, Mr. Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft.

John Ashcroft = Seven Deferments
While attending university and then law school during the Vietnam War John Ashcroft repeatedy applied for, and received, a student deferment from the draft. After graduating from Law School, however, Ashcroft continued to seek a deferment under the pretence that he held a "critical civilian job" - teaching business law at Southwest Missouri State University! By this time Ashcroft had already passed his pre-induction physical. But the deferment was granted and Ashcroft never had to fight the Communist menace face-to-face. Occupational deferments were granted to less than 0.75% of the 35 million draft age men in 1967.

Marc Brazeau



I don't think the war in Vietnam was about defending America, but if you do then John Kerry already has.

George Bush on the other hand has been on a three year recruiting spree for Al Queda.

July 23 Arab American Institute Poll (apologies for not taking the time to do table tags)
Country 2004 Favorable/Unfavorable 2002 Favorable/Unfavorable
Morocco 11/88 38/61
Saudi Arabia 4/94 12/87
Jordan 15/78 34/61
Lebanon 20/69 26/70
UAE 14/73 11/87
Egypt 2/98 15/76

Iraq Policy
Morocco | Saudi Arabia | Jordan |Lebanon | UAE
Fav/Unfav Fav/Unfav Fav/Unfav Fav/Unfav Fav/Unfav
1/98 | 1/97 | 2/78 | 4/93 | 4/91

'When asked to identify “the best thing that comes to mind when they think about America, in three of the six countries the top answer given was “nothing at all.”'

Table 3c. Worst Thing About America
Morocco Saudi Arabia Jordan Lebanon UAE Egypt
Foreign Policy 12.5 26 9 8.5 15.5 15
Unfair Middle East Policy 12 8.5 20 39.5 27.5 40
Murder Arabs 31.5 17 26.5 19.5 19 21.5
Godless 3.5 6.5 8 2.5
All About Oil 10 30 15 19 14 5.5

'To understand the depth of Arab alienation from America and the reasons for it, one need
only look at the responses to the questions “what is the worst thought that comes to mind
when you her America?”
The issue of foreign policy in general and policy towards the Arab people in particular are
the items most frequently cited here. Across the board in all six countries foreign policy
issues are noted in almost 80% of the responses. The most frequently cited are “unfair
Middle East policy,” US responsibility for “murdering Arabs” (principally in Iraq,
although US culpability for the suffering of Palestinians is also cited), and what is
perceived as the US preoccupation with “Arab oil.” That this is an issue across the board,
is worth noting. While it is understandable that this might be a perception in Saudi Arabia
and UAE, it comes as a surprise that this is a significant “first thought” that comes to mind
in Morocco, Jordan, and Lebanon as well."

In any case there appears to be no empirical evidence to support the claim that Arabs have
a negative view of the US because “they hate American values.”

"Freedoms" didn't seem to come up that often.

The final open-ended question asked respondents “what the US should do to improve its image in the Arab world?” Here again, in the answers given to this question it becomes clear that the central Arab concern is with changing US policy and the way the US deals with Arab people. The two most frequently provided answers were “stop supporting Israel” and “change your Middle East policy”—these were similar to the most frequently cited responses given in the 2002 “Impressions of America” poll. The very high 46% of Lebanese whose answers to this question can be grouped under “stop support for Israel” can be explained by the fact that Lebanon has its own history with Israel and its own frustration with US support for Israeli policy. A newer response, that ranks quite high in five of the Arab countries, is “get out of Iraq.” The exception here is the UAE. It is interesting to note that in four of the six countries, over 1/3 of the respondents call on the US to adopt what might be referred to as a more “values driven” policy. There are calls for the US to show more “respect,” “apply justice,” “improve relations,” or “work for peace.”
Meanwhile: A senior CIA analyst, "Anonymous" has been widely identified as the head of the bin Laden unit at the Central Intelligence Agency's Counter-terrorist Centre from 1996 to 1999. He was allowed to write the book on condition he not reveal his identity.
"It's a disaster," he said. "I'm not an expert at all on Saddam or WMD (weapons of mass destruction) or Iraq but as it factors into the war against al-Qaeda or al-Qaedaism it was a tremendous gift to bin Laden.

"It validated so many of the arguments he's made over the past decade," "Anonymous" said, particularly the claim by the Saudi-born al-Qaeda leader that the West seeks to occupy the Islamic holy places.

"We have the first one, the most important in the Arabian peninsula, we occupy that in their eyes," he said in a reference to Saudi Arabia.

"We now occupy Iraq, the second holiest place, and the Israelis have Jerusalem, the third.

"The idea that we would smash any government that posed a threat to Israel - that's validated by our actions," he continued.

"And his claim that we lust after control of Arab oil; Iraq has the second greatest reserves in the Arab world.

"So it's been an astounding victory for Osama bin Laden in terms of perceptions and perceptions are reality so often," "Anonymous" said.

He said the situation in Iraq, where more than 900 US soldiers have died, "looks like Afghanistan in the '80s with the Soviets, kind of a mujahideen magnet".

"I think you can see already the fighters that are flowing in from Algeria and from Saudi Arabia and from Malaysia and from all other places," he said.

As for Afghanistan, "Anonymous" said: "It's very bleak".

"The insurgency is increasing day by day in small measures," he said. "Eventually we'll be faced with a lose-lose situation of either increasing our forces dramatically or leaving."

"Anonymous" said capturing or killing bin Laden would be important "symbolically" but "he's also very valuable in death as a martyr".

"If he dies he'll be replaced and the movement goes on, so the worth of taking him out is still there but it's drastically reduced from what it was four or five years ago in terms of its impact on improving American security," he said.

More on how we've turned Iraq into a training ground for Al Qaeda
And in Latin America:
MONTERREY, Mexico - Governments throughout Mexico and Central America are on alert as evidence grows that al Qaeda members are traveling in the region and looking for recruits to carry out attacks in Latin America, the potential last frontier for international terrorism.

It could be a perfect staging ground for Osama bin Laden's militants, with homegrown rebel groups, drug and people smugglers, and corrupt governments. U.S. officials have long feared that al Qaeda could launch an attack from south of the border, and they have been paying closer attention as the number of terror-related incidents has increased since last year.

The strongest possible al Qaeda link is Adnan G. El Shukrijumah, a 29-year-old Saudi pilot suspected of being a terrorist-cell leader and bomb maker.

And in Britain:
These latest arrests in London and Pakistan are revealing in a number of ways:

* They indicate that Britain has become not only a target for terrorist attacks, but possibly a staging ground for attacks on the United States and other targets.

* Al-Qaeda is functional but has transformed into a much looser network. Its older operatives, trained in the camps in Afghanistan, are now scattered throughout the world actively recruiting new members into terrorist cells. The fact that they are successful (at least in Britain) indicates that a great many young men (those arrested in London were mostly in their mid-20s) are willing to join such groups.

and in Pakistan:
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Despite a surge in arrests of Al Qaeda suspects, a senior Pakistani anti-terrorism official said investigators still had not found the trail of their main target, Osama bin Laden.

"You can only be sure you're closing in on someone when you at least have a hint of his whereabouts," Brig. Javed Iqbal Cheema said in an interview last week. "With regard to Osama bin Laden himself, I would say that we are not getting any substantial leads as yet."

Pop quiz hot shot: How many times has George Bush mentioned Osama Bin Laden in the last year and a half?


Since the beginning of 2003, in fact, Bush has mentioned bin Laden's name on only 10 occasions. And on six of those occasions it was because he was asked a direct question. In addition, there were four times when Bush was asked about bin Laden directly but was able to answer without mentioning bin Laden's name himself.

Not once during that period has he talked about bin Laden at any length, or said anything substantive. During the same period, for comparison purposes, Bush has mentioned former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein on approximately 300 occasions.

Best quote: "So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. . . . I truly am not that concerned about him."

And in Africa:

The Center for Strategic and International Studies recently released a study of the rising U.S. stakes in Africa, specifically pinpointing the Muslim community in Africa as a major U.S. foreign policy concern. Do you agree?

The U.S. is becoming aware of the potential threat posed, not by the Muslim community, but by the ability of radical Islam to take control of the Muslim communities and turn them into recruiting grounds for Jihadists and Wahhabists. It's very clear that the tradition of Islam in west Africa is extremely tolerant. In Liberia and Sierra Leone, I knew Moslems who had married Christians and Christians who had married Moslems, and there was not an issue. But what you'll see is a Muslim community, which is largely impoverished and has very little access to state resources, and which has very few ways of bettering their lives - when money flows in from outside with offers to help, they will take it. And with that help, will come radicalization of Islam in many parts of west Africa.

The United States is just starting to recognize that problem. The question is how you deal with that. We simply do not have the resources or the strategic thinking to begin to figure out ways to make moderate Islam more attractive, to put resources in teaching ways of democratic systems and to give the social services that states do not give.

What does al Qaeda look for in African countries to advance its interests?

Al Qaeda looks for different things in different areas. It's clear that they would like to expand their pool of potential recruits in the Islamic communities wherever they find them. What sub-Saharan Africa offers them that other parts of the world don't are the abilities that they had in Liberia, to move into states that would protect them and operate with them for monetary reasons. Charles Taylor was not a Muslim. He is a Christian, and yet he was perfectly happy to deal with these people because they were willing to pay him.

If you look at failed states and what sociologists are now calling "gray areas" or stateless areas - areas across sub-Saharan Africa and other parts of the world where armed groups, rather than states control assets - that's where these people like to go because then they have a rest and recreation area. They have a recruiting pool, and they have a way to hide out, when they need safety.

And finally:

Even a couple of years ago, Pakistani al-Qaeda operatives were from relatively disadvantaged backgrounds, mainly educated in madrassas (religious schools). This has now changed. Pakistan's al-Qaeda operatives who were arrested recently are from middle-class backgrounds. They are highly qualified professionals and university graduates, what Zahid Hussain describes in an article in the Pakistani newsmagazine Newsline as "children of opportunity rather than deprivation".

Although terrorism experts and reports in the media have picked up on the "new face of al-Qaeda", counter-terrorism officials seem to be stuck in a time warp. Their perception of al-Qaeda and their response to it seem to be ignoring the immense metamorphosis that has taken place in al-Qaeda. For one, counter terrorism strategists are still responding to al-Qaeda as a group or a network, when it has morphed into an ideological movement. Arrests weaken terrorist outfits, but not an ideology. Paul Bergen, author of Holy War, Inc: Inside the Secret World of Osama bin Laden , points out: "Since September 11, al-Qaeda the group has been morphing into al-Qaeda the ideological movement, and although it is a relatively simple matter to arrest people, it is altogether another thing to arrest the spread of ideas."


um alright...you are a psycho, aren't you? your rantings are unclear, and confusing, you are irrational and to say that pacifism is evil, is completly rediculous, as a pacifist, (as in one which does not believe in violence as a problem solver) i take great offense to what you say, you must be a gun fanatic, or just insane period... just tell me-- if violence only breeds more violence and there is no peace without war...where do you fit into that equation, if you are in the no peace without war section obviously you are on the wrong side, break the chain or at leeast see a psychiatrist

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