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June 03, 2004

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Adrian Spidle

WOW. I bet the writer is either a HISTORY OF SCIENCE major or a history major. such one sided nonsense.

Science, like all areas of knowledge is multi-dimensional and looks differnt from different points of view. YOU CAN ONLY SEE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. e.g. General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics not to mention Newtonian Phusics.

How could fundamental things like location and momentum look so differently and still be correct? It's totally counter-intuitive.

Science is a human endeavour and the scientific method only applies to what its applied to.

I agree we should try and depoliticize science but I'm not even sure that would be good.

Oh well,

Adrian

Matt Daws

Is it ever worth pointing out that Bruce Sterling is an author (of non-fiction and fiction: his book on the early hacker culture is truly excellent). Perhaps you should also read the Wikipedia entry for Lysenko. This quote is interesting: "Under Lysenko's guidance, science was guided not by the most likely theories, backed by appropriately controlled experiments, but by the desired ideology."

I think that sums up Sterling's fears pretty well.

--Matt

Adrian Spidle

Is it ever worth pointing out that Bruce Sterling is an author (of non-fiction and fiction: his book on the early hacker culture is truly excellent). Perhaps you should also read the Wikipedia entry for Lysenko. This quote is interesting: "Under Lysenko's guidance, science was guided not by the most likely theories, backed by appropriately controlled experiments, but by the desired ideology."


I think that sums up Sterling's fears pretty well.

--Matt

THEY ARE VERY VALID FEARS AND THEY APPLY TO BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM. IT'S A BIT UNFORTUNATE THAT THE MOST POLITICALLY RELEVANT SCIENCES ARE THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC (POLITICAL SCIENCE, SOCIAL SCIENCE, ECONOMICS, CLIMATE SCIENCE, ETC.) THAT IS TO SAY THAT THEY ARE HISTORICAL SCIENCES THAT AREN'T REALLY GOOD VENUES FOR THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.

NONE-THE-LESS, THESE "SCIENCES" ONLY REAL HOPE, IN MY VIEW, IS IF THEY CAN INTEGRATE DISPARATE POINTS OF VIEW IN MULTI-DIMENSIONAL MODELS AND THEORIES.

ADRIAN

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